Outcomes - NLP (Neuro-Linguistic Programming) Training

Paul Sims · #1 (**permalink**) 03-30-2008, 10:30 PM

I've heard that out outcomes aren't a key part on NLP any more is this true?

Paul

michaelbeale@ppimk.com · #2 (**permalink**) 04-04-2008, 12:45 PM

Hi Paul,

Interesting point, I think I remember John Grinder saying that the conscious mind was not very good at setting outcomes.

To me an outcomes is not so much about setting a goal but about setting a direction. A direction which is motivating and creates the right frame for achieving goals and milestones much more easily.

I also remember a piece on women and pleasure. (According to the authors) women who experience greatest pleasure the most have learnt to relax and enjoy the surprise and excitement of whatever happens - which could be described as the opposite of setting outcomes.

Sometimes outcomes are useful, sometimes just enjoy the journey.....

Any thoughts?

Torsten · #3 (**permalink**) 04-05-2008, 10:36 AM

Hi Michael,
Aha, so I read the more relaxed you are the more outcomes will become possible?

michaelbeale@ppimk.com · #4 (**permalink**) 04-05-2008, 11:10 AM

Hi Torsten,

Interersting point,

I suspect we're all different however what is important is to be in a positive state when setting outcomes.

I suggest the last thing anyone wants to do is to set is set a direction, or directions or outcomes for their life when they're feeling pressured or frustrated or in conflict.

Far better when they're relaxed or positive or passionate or just feeling good for no reason. They'll set better out comes and achieve them more easily.

Paul Sims · #5 (**permalink**) 04-06-2008, 05:10 PM

Hi Michael,

What do you find as the best way of getting into the right state, and of helping get your clients into the right state?

Interesting thought and question Torsten.

michaelbeale@ppimk.com · #6 (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 12:00 AM

Hi Paul,

As is could be the MOST important question NLP I'm going to consider a bit before I answer.

michaelbeale@ppimk.com · #7 (**permalink**) 04-25-2008, 03:24 PM

Hi Paul,

Answering the second question first the best way of getting your client into a particular state is by going into into yourself. Maybe after pacing your client a bit first (acknowledging the state thats he's in to start with to get rapport.) A bit of pace him (or her) and then leadhin into the stare you want.

Most ways of working (playing) with your own state involve:

(and remember while alive we will continually change states - which is useful as we have access to different resources when we're in different strates.)

Physiology and breathing

How you move and hold your body, how you breath and speak - including things like voice tone all impact state.

Memories and imagination

When you remember a good (or bad) memory you're likely to bring back the state you were in when you had that memory into the present. Hence if you get someone to genuinly remember a time they felt good, they will tend to feel good now.

And if you can't remember a time you felt good (or whatever) you can always imagine what would have to be there for you to feel good. And when you do it right you'll get the feeling.

Good states to be in

What are useful states to be in? Depends on the context. I like the idea that being able to access any mix of 'playfullness' fierceness and tenderness' at anytime is usefull.

Questions

Questions are useful because they can set people in a direction to access useful states. Asking (in the right voice tone) what helps you feel motivated - in answering the question genuinly you're likely to access the state.

More to come..

Torsten · #8 (**permalink**) 05-21-2008, 02:18 PM

Thanks for the info Michael, I absolutely agree with that and must keep that in my mind.
I know it, but still getting trapped into that kind of state...
The more stressed I am the more I get into a "tunnel view" kind of state - and my brain is pretty easy stuck, not recourcefull at all than.
It really helps to change state by taking a break - getting of the desk, taking some deep breaths, having a tea/coffee (beer - that def. changes your state - question is whether you want that state in that very moment ;-)
Michael, I recently have heared about the "Neural(ogical?) Bridge Technique" - any thoughts on that?
Cheers,
Torsten