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Seduction Boys seducing girls. Podcast and transcripts from Ross Jeffries and Ricard La Ruina. Recommended books. Spoof video

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Default Ross Jeffries Interview

THE Ross Jeffies Speed Seduction Interview

A Conversation with Ross Jeffries, Speed Seduction Guru and NLP Trainer Michael Beale conducted September 2007



You can listen to a recording of this conversation from Ross.mp3 (but allow 1 minute for connection).

Michael: Firstly, I'd like to say that I found some of your stuff very useful regarding attracting women but also, I think you've made some new distinctions around NLP which I think other people haven't done. So I personally found your stuff exceptionally useful.


Ross: Thank you. That's very flattering. I appreciate that.

Michael: The first thing I would like to say though is that sometimes I get a bit shocked by your advertising copy.

Ross: My advertising copy was largely influenced by one person -- my copywriting and marketing guru Gary Halbert. Gary Halbert once said "When it comes to writing, people don't have time to understand your pathetic subtleties" and I never forgot that!

Michael: Presumably up to now, it's worked for you.

Ross: Yes.

Michael: OK. Going back, how did actually get involved in SS and how did you actually find out the first patterns?

Ross: That's funny because I was just writing a post about this on my blog. My greatest success came from my greatest failure.

I was a comedy writer. Not every one knows this that I was a comedy writer in a former career. And that dream died a horrible death when I wrote one of the worst movies ever made. And when I saw how bad it was, I quite literally had a snapping moment in that theatre and I began to stumble around for something else to do.

The first NLP books I read were just incomprehensible. I believe the first one was Structured Magic. Then I stumbled a couple of months later on to Frogs and Princes and it completely blew me away. I spent a couple of years wrestling to understand it, not literally wrestling, but wrestling with NLP to understand it.

And I began to see that I could apply this to my own shyness but I also I could learn to communicate with women in a way that made them much more attractive to me.

Michael: What do you think are the real deep down benefits people get from doing this?
Is it about Speed Seduction or is it more than that?

Ross: Well, first and foremost, I think it teaches men to think about human emotion and human subjective process in a much different way. You've got to remember that most people that come to my work are not familiar with NLP or indeed any kind of personal change technology or communication technology at all.

And so the first time they begin to look at people as more than just random responses running around, they begin to see that the emotions they want to experience and the emotions they want others to experience with them, is a result of an internal process. So first and foremost, I think the benefit is that you begin to look at people and begin to understand that they have a subjective world that you don't necessarily share, and you being to begin to understand that world. And to understand your own subjective world, so you feel less at the mercy of what society uses as nomilisation - chemistry, love. You begin to see that these are not things, but they are processes that can be understood.

And to some large degree you can gain mastery no matter what your previous experience has been. That's the overall really beautiful benefit. And of course knowing how to use your language and how to get women talking in a way that creates attraction, virtually at will, is a pretty nice power to have. Wouldn't you say?

Michael: Absolutely. Absolutely. Well in a funny sort of way I find your stuff poetic, may be a strange description!

Ross: Well it is kind of poetic, isn't it?

Michael: Are there any warnings you give to people about SS and any advice you'd give to someone who, after taking a course, is setting out to put some of what you are talking about into operation?

Ross: I do tell people that it's their obligation that anyone under your influence is under your protection. I do tell guys that you want to leave people better off than when you found them. Only people are somewhat chaotic and there is no way to guarantee that. And that also what you put out in some way eventually reflected back to you. And that is the warning I give.

And look, any time you deal with human emotion, you're dealing with very potentially powerful forces. Whether you are an effective writer, an effective speaker or seducer,
You're dealing with human emotion and it's very powerful.

But I also believe Michael, let me very blunt, I also believe that technology is morally neutral. There is no ethical or moral quality to technology and that's what this is, so you can use it to harm or you can use it to benefit.

And that’s true, by the way, with all persuasive technologies and certainly true about NLP. People have used NLP destructively and they have also used it very constructively. Any many people have done both, which is the most confusing thing. I won't name any names.

To read full interview: Ross Jeffries Interview

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